Thursday, December 27, 2007

A Horseman's Christmas: Doris Eraldi

It's the night before Christmas, we're out in the barn
Blanketing horses to keep them all warm
They're eating their dinners, tucked in cozy stalls
Not aware that it's Christmas or any special day at all

They can dream of spring pastures from their pine-scented beds
No visions of sugarplums dance in their heads
But we people are thinking of merry parties and such
Maybe feeling a little sad at missing so much

This season is special but the horses don't know
We've got work to do before we can go
We finish the chores and head on inside
To get ready for dinner and our own yuletide

It's nearly midnight, the carols are sung
I remember a story I was told when I was young
How at midnight on Christmas Eve
The creatures of the barnyard can speak to us with ease

I am called to the barn, I wade through the rain
I know I must go, I can't really explain
I slide open the door, pause for a while
Then slowly walk down that dully lit aisle

A nicker from Casey, a wink from JD
Sleepy old Alibi waking to see
Tucker rustling his bedding, a snort soft and light
Each horse gave a greeting as I walked through the night

I thought about parties bright lit and warm
The one s we don't go to 'cause we have the barn
And vacations and holidays that we don't get
When we're working long hours for bills to be met

Walking all the way to the end of the aisle
I stop to stroke Bonnie, it brings me a smile
She snuffles my face, hot breath on my skin
It starts me to thinking about my horses, my kin

I could be at parties with laughter and mirth
But where I am right now is the best place on Earth.

Friday, December 14, 2007

Jaime Leigh Jones

I received the following email today from the political activist group MoveOn. I'm absolutely appalled.
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Jamie Leigh Jones was a 20-year-old woman working in Iraq for a subsidiary of Halliburton when she was drugged and brutally gang-raped by several co-workers.

The next day, Halliburton told her that if she left Iraq to get medical treatment, she could lose her job.1

Jamie's story gets even more horrific: For the last two years, she's been asking the US government to hold the perpetrators accountable. But the men who raped her may never be brought to justice because Halliburton and other contractors in Iraq aren't subject to US or Iraqi laws. They can't be tried for a crime in any court.2

This is one of the most disturbing stories we have come across in a while. We're calling on Congress to investigate Jamie's case, hold those involved accountable, and bring US contractors under the jurisdiction of US law so this can't happen again. If hundreds of thousands of us speak out against this outrageous story, we can force Congress to take action.

When you get an email from us, it doesn't usually include a graphic description of a brutal attack. But when we heard this story, we knew we had to do something about it.

Here's how Jamie described what happened after the attack:

I awoke the next morning in the barracks to find my naked body battered and bruised. I was still groggy from whatever had been put in my drink. I was bleeding... After getting to the clinic and having a rape kit performed...I was locked in a container with no food, no way to call my parents, and was placed under armed guard by Halliburton.3

Jamie's attackers aren't the only ones exploiting a legal loophole to get away with their violent crimes. Another female employee of Halliburton says she was raped by her co-workers in Iraq.4 Employees of Blackwater, another private contracting firm in Iraq, were accused of killing innocent Iraqi civilians, and that incident turned into an international scandal. Worst of all, they may never be punished.5

Private contractors in Iraq are making massive amounts of money, operating above the law and are accountable to no one. This has to stop.

Congress needs to act now to bring these contractors under the rule of law. If they don't, nothing will prevent a case like Jamie's from happening again. No man or woman working in Iraq should have to fear that they can be attacked without consequences.

Please sign on to the petition: "Congress must investigate the rape of Jamie Leigh Jones and others, hold those involved accountable, and bring US contractors under the jurisdiction of US law." Clicking below adds your name:

http://pol.moveon.org/contractors_accountable/o.pl?id=11800-8222761-uT7GSo&t=4

Thanks for all you do,

–Nita, Wes, Karin, Marika, and the MoveOn.org Political Action Team
Friday, December 14th, 2007

Sources:

1. "Halliburton hit in rape lawsuit," New York Daily News, December 11, 2007
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=3274&id=11800-8222761-uT7GSo&t=6

2. "Victim: Gang-Rape Cover-Up by U.S., Halliburton/KBR," ABC News, December 10, 2007
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=3977702

3. Jamie's Journal, The Jamie Leigh Foundation
http://www.jamiesfoundation.org/Jamie.htm

4. "Female ex-employees sue KBR, Halliburton—report," Reuters, June 29, 2007
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=3275&id=11800-8222761-uT7GSo&t=7

5."Blackwater Probe Narrows Focus to Guards," Associated Press, December 8, 2007
http://www.moveon.org/r?r=3276&id=11800-8222761-uT7GSo&t=9

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Feel free to go sign the petition and forward to others that you know. If you want more information visit Jamie's Foundation. If you want to read her personal account of the horrors she has been going through fighting for her rights, you can read her journal.

Thursday, December 13, 2007

St. Lucia Day



Today is St. Lucia Day, still widely celebrated in Scandinavian countries. I didn't have time to make "Lussekatter" (Lucia cat's) which are "Saffransbullar's" (saffron buns) shaped into cats. So I made "Pepparkakor" (gingersnaps) for the first time. Some of them turned out snappier than others, but they are all quite tasty.

I wasn't as fancy with my shapes, I just did traditional, round, gingersnaps.

Saturday, December 01, 2007

Update!

You will be happy to see that I am trying to add labels to posts so that it will be easier to find old posts (for those of you that might be so inclined). It's not perfect, I'll try to make them more detailed from now on, but at least most of the old ones have some kind of title associated with them now, there's still a few I have to finish.

We're trying to have a snowstorm here. We got a couple inches last night, now the sun is out. Finally we've gotten rid of the brown mud, dead brown grass, dry brown leaves, empty brown flowerbeds...you get the point.

For an update on our adventures during American Thanksgiving check out Andrew's Blog. I trust him to do a better job at portraying the humor in our potentially dangerous mishap.

Tuesday, November 20, 2007

Turkey Pardons?

I'm not even going to comment. Draw your own judgments. They're TURKEYS for crying out loud!!! OK, sticking with the no comment from me, cause I think I could write a whole editorial.


Saturday, November 03, 2007

Riding

I went riding today with my neighbour and one of her friend's who trailered her horse over here. After much encouragement and positive talk from both Andrew and my neighbour through out the week, I decided to ride Dakota.

I haven't ridden Dakota in over a year. The last time I came off him I got back on and rode him home and haven't been on him since. My confidence was completely shot. This coming from the person that used to ride pretty much anything. For the past year I have been riding Bullet, steady-plod-along-snort-when-he-"spooks" Bullet. He's slowly helped me get some of my confidence back.

I also want it to be known that both Andrew and neighbour had ulterior motives. Andrew's being that he wants his horse back (Bullet is his horse) and neighbour wants someone that will trailer with her and go trail riding elsewhere besides our property and the surrounding trails (Bullet doesn't trailer, Dakota does).

I saddled Dakota up with no problems, he was a little antsy, but nothing out of the ordinary for being forced to leave the pasture and his buddies on a beautiful morning when he could have been taking a nap in the sun.

Before we left Andrew said, "Just trust him". And I did. We took off across the field, through the woods, into another field, up and down hills, bushwhacked through some other woods to get back to another trail, moseying through the countryside. He did great, we walked, trotted, and cantered. Andrew has gotten him to neck-rein beautifully. He response perfectly to the slightest touch or shift in weight and voice commands. It was one of the best rides I've had in a long, long time. I'd forgotten how much I loved him. This has really inspired me to try show him again next summer. I even went to the tack shop and got a few suggestions on trainers to take a couple lessons and brush up on ring stuff. My neighbour and her friend want me to go horse camping with them next spring, we just might do that too.



He's standing on a downhill slope, he's really not that front heavy or low withers/high rump.

Thursday, October 25, 2007

Working from Home

Every time work gets stressful and busy I dream of ways I could work from home, at least part of the time. I don't want to be a hermit, but it would be nice to work a few less hours or work from home, for the same amount of money of course. It's especially driven home when I do work a couple hours from home and get more done, then when I'm at the office.
Here's a favourite website I go to, to dream of not just working from home, but having an "office" to work from at home. Shedworking
Sounds a little primitive, but you should see some of the things people come up with, primitive is the furthest from what it is, some of them are downright extravagant.

Personally I would situate mine out past the pasture near the woods and brook.






And if I can't have a yurt or a shed, I would like a treehouse.





A tree house.
A free house.
A secret you and me house.
A high up in the leafy branches.
A happy as can be house.
A street house.
A neat house.
A be sure to wipe your feet house,
is not the kind of house for me.
Let's go and live in a treehouse.


TreeHouse
--Shel Silverstein

Monday, October 15, 2007

Montezuma Wetlands


We went to Montezuma Wildlife Refuge on Saturday. We got a pretty good list of birds, mostly water fowl: great blue heron, starling, king fisher, canada geese, killdeer, norther shoveler, green winged teal, pied bill greebe, gadwall, mallard, crow, american coot, widgeon, ring necked duck, ruddy duck, wood duck, black duck, snow geese, osprey, house sparrow.
Part of Montezuma is a drive through area where you are only allowed to get out of the car at designated observation areas, you can stop all you want everywhere else, you just have to stay in the car. This is to protect the wildlife habitat as much as possible. While we were sitting in the car trying to identify one of the ducks I kept hearing this weird chatter/squeaking noise. I finally asked Andrew; "What is making that NOISE?" He leaned out the car window further, looked up and shouted "EAGLES, BALD EAGLES"! There were two of them soaring back and forth over our car, screeching, and they were only 20-30 feet up. I grabbed my camera and jumped out of the car (screw the rules for BALD EAGLES). But they decided we were no longer any fun, and proceeded to dive bomb the ducks and geese, causing them to all take off, quacking in apparent terror.

Friday, October 12, 2007

Toronto-Labour Day

Our Group: Me, Erika, David, Michael, Deb, Mark, Jolene, Joe

Toronto Skyline


Joe heading to the clothing optional beach

Erika, Mark, & Kim

Air Show


Snowbirds



I didn't realize what this picture was until I had it up on my computer. This picture has ONLY been cropped!

Monday, October 08, 2007

Happy Thanksgiving

We made stuffing, veggie turkey, mashed potatoes, butternut squash, & peas. Along with Pumpkin and Apple Pie and sparkling cranberry juice to top it all off. It was very yummy. Unfortunately, I was unable to track down any rutabaga/turnip, so that will have to wait for American Thanksgiving, it's my favourite root vegetable. We got to share our meal with Andrew's Uncle Milt, Dave, and Gary and his cousin Corey. It was good seeing them all again, it's been quite awhile. They were just passing through on their way back home from Mass. and since we live so close off the thruway it wasn't much of a detour, and a home cooked meal.

Thursday, September 27, 2007

comBAT

The bat is back, with a vengeance. The first night he had me cowering in the tack room. He is a very territorial bat, he dive bombs you if you try to walk in the aisle way, which is a necessity to get chores done. The other night I had enough and decided it was war time, so when he came down the aisle at me, I went into batters position and took a swing, I missed, but he is into survival and decided that it was in his best interest to stay out of the way the rest of the night.

He upped the ante tonight and decided to give me a warning, while I was sitting, milking (which is a very non-threatening stance I might add). I didn't see him coming as he silently flew down the aisle and sidled up to my shoulder, fluttering a few seconds, close enough for me to hear his beating wings whisper, "What are you going to do now?" and then he went into his regular routine of doing laps in the aisle way.
So I responded by throwing a bucket of water at him. He dodged that quite well and I didn't see him for the remainder of chores.
Bat 2, Kim 2

Saturday, September 15, 2007

Boston History 1

George Washington in Boston Public Garden


Trinity Church


Public Library Interior Courtyard


Robert McCloskey "Make Way for Ducklings"


USS Constitution


Bunker Hill



Fun in Boston 2

Duck in the Water


Duck out of the Water


Fish


Andrew, Me, & Aunt Barb on a Swan Boat


Swan Boat Driver


Salt & Pepper Bridge, View from the Hub


Boston Red Sox's

Fun in Boston 1

We went to Boston the week or the First of July (CANADA DAY!). I'm finally taking time to try to update my blog on our summer adventures. Here's the first installment.

On the ferry to Boston from Salem


Pulling in to Boston Harbour, Custom's House Tower



Arbor


Fountain


Painter

Friday, September 07, 2007

Saltimbanco


We went to see a Cirque du Soleil Show last night in Syracuse. The show we saw was Saltimbanco, here's the description:
Saltimbanco -from the Italian "saltare in banco", which literally means "to jump on a bench"-explores the urban experience in all its myriad forms: the people who live there, their idiosyncrasies and likenesses, families and groups, the hustle and bustle of the street and the towering heights of skyscrapers. Between whirlwind and lull, prowess and poetry, Saltimbanco takes spectators on an allegorical and acrobatic journey into the heart of the city.

Saltimbanco is a Cirque du Soleil signature show inspired by the urban fabric of the metropolis and its colorful inhabitants. Decidedly baroque in its visual vocabulary, the show's eclectic cast of characters draws spectators into a fanciful, dreamlike world, an imaginary city where diversity is a cause for hope.


Some of the things they do, and the body control the performers, have is amazing. The trapeze and the Chinese poles were my favourite. The bungees are something I would love to try. Check out Boleandoras, it's like flamenco dancing but they are spinning strings with a weight on them that also adds rhythm and sound to the dance.

Tuesday, August 28, 2007

Tuesday, July 24, 2007

Eternally Hopeful

After the latest blood doping scandal this year that has caused German TV to suspend coverage of the tour and now one of the favourites of the year did an amazing come back this week despite being battered and bruised from crashes to pull himself up over the Pyrenees and take a stage win, it has now been released that Vinokourov tested positive Saturday for blood doping (the day he won the time trial) and they are awaiting the results from his mountain win on Monday. In response, Vino's been suspended and the sponsors pulled the whole team from the race. Below is a newsletter I received last week that sums up how frustrated I am with the sport, and yet I keep watching, and hoping that there still are real athletes out there that aren't cheaters. I'm so frustrated & disappointed that I just want to cry. As for my favourite rider this year (Rassmussen), he's passed all the tests so far, but there are rumours floating around. Historically, there's usually some truth behind them, so I don't expect him to be in much longer either.
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Growing up with Heroes

In a world with a million television channels and cameras everywhere, the imperfection of athletes is more obvious than ever before. I often wonder if my heroes growing up took the same drugs athletes today take. The HGH, EPO, TGH and testosterone filled needles are a puncture in the bubble of boyish dreams. If you are eight, or 10, or 14, caught in that once-wonderful phase of growing up called the age of worship, then you have my sympathy. Every time the press reveals another counterfeit hero, kids pull the posters of cheats off their walls and learn to become cynical way before their time.

No age is possibly as beautiful as this time of believing, when mothers' commandments about clean clothes dismissed, and the first heroes are pasted onto the walls.

How we stepped back, and looked at our heroes, and grinned, wearing a reverence so clean, so pure, it was almost holy. Of all rituals of that time, this was the most innocent in a way, for we believed, emphatically, completely, in the goodness and greatness of another man. Perfection in a poster.

In those non-Internet, non-cable TV days when information limped along, and journalists didn't pry, and athletes were more discreet, and temptations of fame were fewer, we were rarely introduced to the fallibilities of our heroes, we rarely heard about their indiscretions, we were infrequently disappointed. If heroes fumbled, there was always an excuse.

Every year the Tour de France would pass in the north I would make sure I was on my best behavior so that dad would take me with him. A full day of waiting just to see my heroes pass by in fifteen seconds. While we waited, my grandpa would tell stories of cousin Joseph and how he swore during the “great war” that if he ever got out alive he would bike as hard as he could and try to win the tour de France. In 1919 he would finish 8th. It was those and other stories that made me want to be the best one could be.

But how do you make excuses now? How many justifications can kids find? How does worship remain pure when so many heroes are not?

As generations go, this one has it hard. Footballers con referees. Racism lurks. Drunken nightclub incidents involving athletes abound. Assaults are not uncommon. Disrespect is everyone's birthright. A lot of it happened before, but now, in a million TV-channel world, with cameras everywhere, the fallibility of athletes is more obvious.

You wonder in a couple of weeks when the winner of the most celebrated cycling race in sport, and the fairytale champion of the toughest stage event in cycling turn up positive tests, will kids be surprised, or will they just shrug?

But maybe it's worse than that. Maybe kids are just being inured to drugs. You wonder sometimes that if so many athletes take drugs, so many Olympic gold medalists, Tour de France winners, tennis players, that perhaps young people might eventually think it has some legitimacy. Maybe they think it's the only way to ensure a level playing field. That short-term gain is worth the risk and so many grownups anyway just wink and turn a blind eye to such stuff. Maybe it's not such a big deal, it's shameful but the shame passes.

Blithely we say to kids, don’t smoke, say no to drugs, "winning isn't everything, it's the only thing", though we rarely care to spell out the difference. There is a crucial distinction between paying the price to win and winning at any price. Athletes leave me cold with their willingness to win at any price, and I'm no kid. Decades have passed since East German doctors systematically doped young athletes which led to tumors and cancers and in one terrible case a woman athlete opting for a sex change.

Still, despite the dangers, and the enhanced testing, they cheat, confirming its human nature to be seduced by the short cut. Athletes will store their blood and put it back into their bodies because more blood means more red blood cells, means more oxygen to the muscles, means better endurance performance. No, wait; sometimes they'll put other people's blood into their bodies. Worse, there is a suggestion that blood from a different species is sometimes used.

They'll inject human growth hormone even though it can lengthen your hands and result in a protruding jaw. They will use a catheter to insert someone else's fresh urine into their bladder so as not to get caught. They will experiment with a mixture called Belgian pot which is a mix of heroin, cocaine, caffeine and cortisone.

Cyclists have died in their sleep, on the bike, but riders will still inject and swallow. On the Internet, I found reports of two studies where doctors offered athletes a hypothetical magic pill, saying it would mean constant victory for five years but then death. Half the athletes they polled said it would be worth taking. Sometimes you're not sure whether athletes want to be invincible, or take drugs because they already believe they are.

Money has made it a worthwhile bargain for many. In a recent list, the top 10 earning athletes of last year (prize money and endorsements) together took home just over $363 million dollars. Some men evidently will kill themselves for a fraction of that money.

If they get caught, they deny, they'll say they ate too much nandrolone-fatted veal, or inhaled second-hand marijuana smoke and will henceforth wear a gas mark at parties, or that their toothpaste was spiked with drugs. These are real excuses from athletes who tested positive. Who do they think will believe them? Maybe only a kid.

Great, wonderful, clean, authentic heroes remain and sport is hardly in crisis. But in a world where numerous feats by cyclists are looked at askance, inaction will be fatal. It means more honest athletes need to speak out. Parents need to draw lines. Coaches need to be monitored. Schools need to emphasize fair play. Bans should be more than two years and at least ensure the missing of the next Olympics.

What will it take for this issue to reach its tipping point? When will this fade? Maybe we should take the financial element out and have government sponsored athletes.

I can't wait till the day I can take my son to see the tour and tell him about Cousin Joseph. If for nothing else so that kids believe it's safe to put up posters.

After all, what fun is growing up without heroes?

Dream big,

Christophe Vandaele
President,
SBR MULTISPORTS
cvandaele@sbrshop.com

Thursday, July 19, 2007

Blog Update



OK so summer on the farm and blogging are not very conducive to each other. Also the tour is on and so what free time I do have I'm usually watching that. I'm going to make an effort over the next couple days and weekend and get all updated. Our vacation to the Boston area was great. I'm going to try and do the updates by day of when we were THERE, so make sure to look below this post to see what happened. There is so much history in New England and I hope to go back in the spring to do more history stuff. Between the animals and travel, I'm collecting quite a few pictures and trying to figure out which ones to keep, which ones to toss, and back-up storage.

Thursday, June 21, 2007

4 Tin Fish Farm

Thank you to everybody that made suggestions on the blog and in person and on the phone and by email...etc.
We have chosen to go with 4 Tin Fish as our farm name. We are now accepting proofs for a farm logo.
For a quick farm update. We have a name for Ivy's girl.

INTRODUCING: 4 Tin Fish Farm Catarina




We also have added another farm member.

INTRODUCING: Little Island Farm Surfer Girl



I've become quite good (if I do say so myself) with making Chevre, actually it's Fromage Blanc. Chevre is the soft spreadable cheese you put on crackers that comes in log shape. Fromage Blanc is the same cheese, it's just not molded into log form, it's bag cheese (from cheesecloth bag). I'm going to attempt to make Feta over the weekend and maybe one other cheese that needs to age.

Here's a parting shot of the babies.

Thursday, June 07, 2007

Random Update

  • Alice had her stillborn Sunday night, it was awful and traumatizing and horrible. Will not scar anyone by going into details, if you're curious on how to deliver a dead baby or ever need information on how to do it, email me privately and I'll be glad to share. But I hope no one ever has to go through that.
  • Alice is now looking much better, she is still picking at her grain but finishes her hay, she is starting to try and sneak out of her stall as soon as we open the door and make a dash for outside to get grass. She is also back to her loud mouth self.
  • Babies are GROWING. Literally, I am not kidding, they grew overnight a few days ago. I fed them at night and went out the next morning to feed them and they were taller and MUCH wider than the night before, it was shocking.
  • We can not keep up with egg demand but didn't want to have to get chicks and wait 5 months before eggs come, plus the minimum order from hatcheries are 25, we don't want THAT many chickens. So we called the vet that we got the chicks from last year and he said he had 5-6 laying hens that he'd be willing to part with (for a steal I might add). So we have to find some time this weekend to enlarge or build a new chicken coop and run to accommodate more birds.
  • I think I blogged last summer how we hadn't heard coyotes here. I don't remember if I had changed that to we HAVE heard coyotes, not as close as Union Springs, but not too far away either, just up the ridge on the neighbour farmer's hay field. Last month we were driving down the road, maybe a mile from our house, and a coyote ran across the road in front of us in broad daylight. I just happened to have my camera and when I rolled down the window and whistled he stopped and looked back. He was a BIG boy. We never actually saw the coyotes in U.S., The ones in Berrien were puny and skinny and would just slink across the field.


Sunday, May 27, 2007

More Baby Goat Pictures

We took the babies outside for the first time yesterday. They were a hoot, tearing around chasing each other. Jumping straight up into the air, spinning a 360 and dashing off in the opposite direction. A few times they would get going too fast for their legs and face plant, but quickly would jump back up, snort and run off again.


Baby Boy is always ready to ham it up for the camera.

More difficult to get a good picture of Baby Girl, all she wanted to do was be glued to my leg.





Andrew is not trying to be a big meany, he's trying to keep baby boy from sucking on him.


Yes, we know we need to name them. Keep posted for baby names and a farm name, we're almost ready to "go public" with it. :)

Sunday, May 20, 2007

Good and Bad News about Goats

This weekend has been exciting and exhausting. After sleeping sporadically Friday night, getting up and checking on Ivy and listening to the baby monitor, she finally delivered a baby girl at 6:04 and a baby boy at 6:22. The girl was 8 1/2 lbs and boy was 8 lbs, BIG babies. They came out fine, actually was pretty much a textbook delivery, which was nice since it was the first time for all of us.


Baby Girl all cleaned up


Baby Girl Taking First Steps


Baby Boy FINALLY deciding to get up and walk around


Brother and Sister

Now for the bad news, the other goat, Alice, is 3 weeks overdue and has been acting like she was going to deliver too, but nothing was happening. She wasn't eating or drinking, was very lethargic, and then started oozing stuff that didn't look to healthy. So we kept an eye on her, then started calling vets, the lady that breed them, and a lady that lives nearby. Our horse vet and the breeder said to call a vet an hour away that specializes in goats. When the lady that lives nearby came over she said she thought I should call too. She also helped me get a shot of penicillin into her and suggested getting an electrolyte fluid into her since she was dehydrated. My worry was that she really had been pregnant but just never delivered anything and now was going to go septic. Vet thought that could be a very good possibility but would need to see her. Here's the hitch, Andrew had taken the truck to the school cause there was a big program there that he was involved in. After catching him by phone he tracked down a friend that would drive the truck up here, help my get the cap on the truck, load the goat and drive back to get Andrew, who would be done with his program by then. Thank goodness for friends, including my neighbor that came over to help get the cap on and the goat loaded, dragging over her dog ramp when Alice refused to jump up in the bed of the truck. So we FINALLY get to the vet's at 11:45 pm. She does a manual check, but couldn't feel much as Alice was not dilated. The ultrasound showed that there had been a baby at some point which was now decomposing. After consultation with her we decided to see what would happen using a combination of drugs to encourage uterine contractions, control the pain, and fight infection. We will monitor her closely but cutting her open will be a last resort. We went with this choice to decrease risk of further infection and since her body is already trying to excrete things, then we would just help her along. We finally got home around 2:15 and were in bed about half an hour later. We're exhausted today and haven't accomplished much, but after being up for close to 22 hours yesterday I think that is expected.